Vol. 2 Issue 11
|New information on the name PRATSCH
Last month I listed them in the city directory survey. After that ran
Charles Nigl informed me that the Pratsch name did not come from Southern
Bohemia but from Silesia. So they are not part
of our study group.
This from Charles Nigl:
I talked with John Pratsch, a descendant of the Pratsch, mentioned in
I work with John at the Oshkosh Post Office. The Pratsch's
according to John, came
from the border area between Bohemia and Silesia. Silesia was another
just like Bohemia, which from early times had been dominated by its
German neighbors, and had many German settlers. At the time this Pratsch
came to Oshkosh,
Silesia was in fact a part of the Austrian Empire.
Later in the Austro-Prussian War, Prussia took Silesia from
Austria. And it remained
part of Prussia, until after WW I .
According to John, the Pratsch's were always Protestant,
and they may have changed
to Lutheran, upon reaching Oshkosh.
I believe your original guess was correct, they are from
somewhere, different culture,
than the Highholders.
|Oshkosh Public Museum
Oshkosh Seniors Center
Highholder cooking classes
November 15, 2003
Potato Favorites of a Highholder
with guest chef Carol Paulson
Learn how to make German specialties like potato dumplings, steads,
flakels, and spaetzel.
January 17, 2003
Favorites from a 6th Ward Kitchen
with guest chef Carol Paulson
Learn how to make German rye bread, grophens, kraut kuchen and egg
email came from Ken Mauritz after the September Highholder.
is a good example of blatherings. If you have any blatherings you would
like to share send them to me. You never know what might be revealed.
Peter. I read this with great interest. I offer some
Mauritz, born in Neutal - and related to me - and who related the story
about the trek to Bischofsreut as a boy in your newsletter - had a
father that lived to be over 100 years (was it Josef?). A
wife of my cousin, Jack Mauritz, interviewed him sometime in the
1970's and he related things about the region. Very sketchy
notes taken - fuzzy references - and I have these notes in my
possession - as his mental powers were obviously deteriorated at
this time. He even mentions knowing someone who remembers the
army of Napoleon going through the region! I didn't know this stuff
about Bischofsreut as well as other things. I had grandparents from
Schattawa, as well. A very small place in a multicultural region.
Many people around the Sacred Heart, St John and St Vincent
neighborhoods came from a region where Bavaria, Bohemia and Austria met at
a point. I suspect that the people freely crossed these national
borders in the mountainous region as suggested by the testimony of William
Mauritz (who I remember as an usher at Sacred Heart Church in the '50's)
in your newsletter.
visited a distant cousin in '99 whose last name is Kriha (Helmuth, to be
exact) and he told me a lot of things that he discovered when he visited
the region of Boehmerwald shortly after the fall of the iron curtain
- going into civil and church records. He hauled out loads of
records, clippings, etc. This guy could tell the most of any living
persons about Schattawa as he made it a crusade to put the story together.
I sat down with him in his home in Gross Zimmern, just east of
Darmstadt. He gave me a Kriha family tree that goes back to before
1648. 1648 is an important historical year because it was the end of
the Thirty Years War and these boundaries became scrambled. One
should also be aware that there are "German" names in Oshkosh
that are not common in the German language. This happened when some
Czechs changed to German names. Did you know that? For
example, there were a few older people whose first name was 'Wenz'
for Wenzl. Like Wenz Matsche and Wenz Winkelbauer. Wenzel is
the German form of Waclav (as in Waclav Havel), but Wenzl is in fact not a
common name in Germany. I have pictures in my family album of
relatives from Boemerwald that are wearing military uniforms that
are, first Austrian (Landwehr), then Czech (inter-war era), then German
(Wehrmacht-with swastika below eagle patch). Same place, different
masters, from 1914 through 1945. Toward the end of WWII, and the
Soviets were closing in on Prague, the Germans of the Boehmerwald (part of
the Sudetenland) "had to leave with only the shirt on their
back," as told to me by my German relative.
for all the blathering, but feel free to share this convoluted message
with anyone who might be interested.
And one from Charles
When my grandmother Mary Schneider arrived here as a
young girl in the 1890s with her family, from the village of
Uligsthal,Bohemia. They moved in with the Bartz Family.
I'm not sure if I spelled it right, but that is how the name
sounds. Mary's mother was
a Bartz by birth, and related to the Family they stayed with.
At this time 10th Ave, was called 10th Street, and it
did not extend west of Ohio St.
The Bartz Family lived in one of 3 houses west of Ohio St.
So in effect two families
were living in the space, which would have been tight for one
This house is still standing at what is today 646 W.
At that time, this section of 10th Ave. was called "Goose
Turd Alley" The reason for this, is that at what is today
the intersection of 10th Ave and Georgia St. was a farm.
I am not sure who owned this farm, but it was on the North
side of 10th Ave, and the
East side of Georgia. Later there was a Greenhouse located at
this spot, and I remember
buying plants when I was a kid in the 50's.
Back to "Goose Turd Alley", apparently this
farm had an extraordinary amount of Geese, and no one could
walk down this alley, without there being a great amount of
noise and commotion on the part of the Geese, who felt this
alley belonged to them.
According to my Grandmother, the Geese roamed freely up and
down the alley, and no one was safe from attack, if the
Geese capriciously decided the Intruder was not welcome.
Anyone who has visited Menominee Park in recent years can
attest to the terrible mess
a large number of Geese can create, and it was from this
terrible mess, that "Goose
Turd Alley " got its name.
from Gunter Winkelbauer
Today I found a book with old photos from "Bayerischen Wald".
"Schee is gwen, owa hirt" U.a. Bierhütte / Hohenau ---my place
of birth. See this link http://www.buch-und-kunstverlag.de/programm.htm
|More from the Chronicle of Landstrassen
By Franz Paulus, 1946, Landstrassen #25.
The First Settlers of Landstrassen, 1790
|1 (house #)
Landstrassen belonged to the village of Oberlichtbuchet. The first
settlers were farmers and the first houses were massive wood buildings.
The first job of the village was clearing the forest and removal of stones
for the fields. Incomes were very low and most essentials were produced by
the people themselves.
There was a period of great house building between the years 1820-1848.
Many new homes were built for the children of the original settlers. In
1836 a border inspection station and a post office were constructed and in
1850 a police office.
By 1870 Landstrassen had as many as 500 inhabitants. But after this
time people began moving away. Between 1859 -1870 there were many damaging
storms that devastated the forests. There were heavy snows, damaging
spring floods and "Beetle" infestations. At this time there was
much work available and many woodcutters were imported to help in the
clearing of the wood.
National Census 1910, Community of Landstrassen
World War I
Forty men from Landstrassen were called up for duty. They were in
Infantry Regiment 91 and Land Defense Regiment 29.
Here are the names of the fallen;
1. Franz Reif, 20 years old at the Italian front.
2. Johann Schraml, 30 years old, in Spital in Eger.
3. Kajetan Stoegbauer, 34 years old, ill at the Italian front.
4. Wilhelm Stoegbauer, 34 years old, at the Isonzo front in 1917.
5. Alois Paulus, 23 years old, at the Italian front.
World War II
Fallen in the 2nd world war are:
Karl Jungwirth, #13
Josef Paulus, #25
Alfred Schano, #15
Otto Schraml, #28
Arnold Peterlik, #1
Wenzel Schraml, #45
Karl Schraml, #31
Franz Schraml, #28
Franz Paulus was the last inhabitant of the village of Landstrassen
after the war and the start of Czech administration. He left September 22,
1946. So ended the village of Landstrassen.
Thanks to Bob Ziemba for sharing his copy of the story.
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