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November 2003

Vol. 2 Issue 11

New information on the name PRATSCH

Last month I listed them in the city directory survey. After that ran Charles Nigl informed me that the Pratsch name did not come from Southern Bohemia but from Silesia. So they are not part of our study group.

This from Charles Nigl:

I talked with John Pratsch, a descendant of the Pratsch, mentioned in your report.
I work with John at the Oshkosh Post Office.  The Pratsch's according to John, came
from the border area between Bohemia and Silesia. Silesia was another small kingdom
just like Bohemia, which from early times had been dominated by its German neighbors, and had many German settlers. At the time this Pratsch came to Oshkosh,
Silesia was in fact a part of the Austrian Empire. 
  Later in the Austro-Prussian War, Prussia took Silesia from Austria. And it remained
part of Prussia, until after WW I .
   According to John, the Pratsch's were always Protestant, and they may have changed
to Lutheran, upon reaching Oshkosh.
  I believe your original guess was correct, they are from somewhere, different culture,
than the Highholders.


Oshkosh Public Museum 
Oshkosh Seniors Center

Highholder cooking classes

November 15, 2003

Potato Favorites of a Highholder

with guest chef Carol Paulson

Learn how to make German specialties like potato dumplings, steads, flakels, and spaetzel.

January 17, 2003

Favorites from a 6th Ward Kitchen

with guest chef Carol Paulson

Learn how to make German rye bread, grophens, kraut kuchen and egg noodles.


This email came from Ken Mauritz after the September Highholder.

This is a good example of blatherings. If you have any blatherings you would like to share send them to me. You never know what might be revealed.


Thanks, Peter.  I read this with great interest.  I offer some blatherings.  

William Mauritz, born in Neutal - and related to me - and who related the story about the trek to Bischofsreut as a boy in your newsletter - had a father that lived to be over 100 years (was it Josef?).  A wife of my cousin, Jack Mauritz, interviewed him sometime in the 1970's and he related things about the region.   Very sketchy notes taken - fuzzy references - and I have these notes in my possession - as his mental powers were obviously deteriorated at this time.  He even mentions knowing someone who remembers the army of Napoleon going through the region!  I didn't know this stuff about Bischofsreut as well as other things.  I had grandparents from Schattawa, as well.  A very small place in a multicultural region.  Many people around the Sacred Heart, St John and St Vincent neighborhoods came from a region where Bavaria, Bohemia and Austria met at a point.  I suspect that the people freely crossed these national borders in the mountainous region as suggested by the testimony of William Mauritz (who I remember as an usher at Sacred Heart Church in the '50's) in your newsletter. 


I visited a distant cousin in '99 whose last name is Kriha (Helmuth, to be exact) and he told me a lot of things that he discovered when he visited the region of Boehmerwald shortly after the fall of the iron curtain - going into civil and church records.  He hauled out loads of records, clippings, etc.  This guy could tell the most of any living persons about Schattawa as he made it a crusade to put the story together.  I sat down with him in his home in Gross Zimmern, just east of Darmstadt.  He gave me a Kriha family tree that goes back to before 1648.  1648 is an important historical year because it was the end of the Thirty Years War and these boundaries became scrambled.  One should also be aware that there are "German" names in Oshkosh that are not common in the German language.  This happened when some Czechs changed to German names.  Did you know that?  For example, there were a few older people whose first name was 'Wenz' for Wenzl.  Like Wenz Matsche and Wenz Winkelbauer.  Wenzel is the German form of Waclav (as in Waclav Havel), but Wenzl is in fact not a common name in Germany.  I have pictures in my family album of relatives from Boemerwald that are wearing military uniforms that are, first Austrian (Landwehr), then Czech (inter-war era), then German (Wehrmacht-with swastika below eagle patch).  Same place, different masters, from 1914 through 1945. Toward the end of WWII, and the Soviets were closing in on Prague, the Germans of the Boehmerwald (part of the Sudetenland) "had to leave with only the shirt on their back," as told to me by my German relative.


Sorry for all the blathering, but feel free to share this convoluted message with anyone who might be interested.

Ken Mauritz


And one from Charles Nigl

 When my grandmother Mary Schneider arrived here as a young girl in the 1890s with her family, from the village of Uligsthal,Bohemia. They moved in with the Bartz Family.
I'm not sure if I spelled it right, but that is how the name sounds. Mary's mother was
a Bartz by birth, and related to the Family they stayed with.
  At this time 10th Ave, was called 10th Street, and it did not extend west of Ohio St.
The Bartz Family lived in one of 3 houses west of Ohio St.  So in effect two families
were living in the space, which would have been tight for one family.
  This house is still standing at what is today 646 W. 10th Ave.
At that time, this section of 10th Ave. was called "Goose Turd Alley" The reason for this, is that at what is today the intersection of 10th Ave and Georgia St. was a farm.
I am not sure who owned this farm, but it was on the North side of 10th Ave, and the
East side of Georgia. Later there was a Greenhouse located at this spot, and I remember
buying plants when I was a kid in the 50's.
  Back to "Goose Turd Alley", apparently this farm had an extraordinary amount of Geese, and no one could walk down this alley, without there being a great amount of noise and commotion on the part of the Geese, who felt this alley belonged to them.
According to my Grandmother, the Geese roamed freely up and down the alley, and no one was safe from attack, if the Geese capriciously decided the Intruder was not welcome.
Anyone who has visited Menominee Park in recent years can attest to the terrible mess
a large number of Geese can create, and it was from this terrible mess, that "Goose
Turd Alley " got its name.
                                                                                               Charles Nigl

New link 

from Gunter Winkelbauer

Today I found a book with old photos from "Bayerischen Wald". "Schee is gwen, owa hirt" U.a. Bierhütte / Hohenau ---my place of birth. See this link 


More from the Chronicle of Landstrassen
By Franz Paulus, 1946, Landstrassen #25.

The First Settlers of Landstrassen, 1790

1 (house #) Peterlik 9 Kellermann
2 Paulus, Mathias 10 Bayer
3 Schraml 11 Bock
4 Traxler 12 Gabauer
5 Peterlik 13 Raumann
6 Salzer 14 Strunz
7 Schano 15 Marko, Johann
8 Kellermann    


Landstrassen belonged to the village of Oberlichtbuchet. The first settlers were farmers and the first houses were massive wood buildings. The first job of the village was clearing the forest and removal of stones for the fields. Incomes were very low and most essentials were produced by the people themselves. 

There was a period of great house building between the years 1820-1848. Many new homes were built for the children of the original settlers. In 1836 a border inspection station and a post office were constructed and in 1850 a police office. 

By 1870 Landstrassen had as many as 500 inhabitants. But after this time people began moving away. Between 1859 -1870 there were many damaging storms that devastated the forests. There were heavy snows, damaging spring floods and "Beetle" infestations. At this time there was much work available and many woodcutters were imported to help in the clearing of the wood. 

National Census 1910, Community of Landstrassen

Village Landstrassen

38 houses 280 people
Village Oberlichtbuchet 70 houses 467 people
Village Unterlichtbuchet 30 houses 189 people

World War I

Forty men from Landstrassen were called up for duty. They were in Infantry Regiment 91 and Land Defense Regiment 29.

Here are the names of the fallen;

1. Franz Reif, 20 years old at the Italian front.
2. Johann Schraml, 30 years old, in Spital in Eger.
3. Kajetan Stoegbauer, 34 years old, ill at the Italian front.
4. Wilhelm Stoegbauer, 34 years old, at the Isonzo front in 1917.
5. Alois Paulus, 23 years old, at the Italian front.

World War II

Fallen in the 2nd world war are:

Karl Jungwirth, #13
Josef Paulus, #25
Alfred Schano, #15
Otto Schraml, #28
Franz Jungwirth,
Adolf Peterlik
Arnold Peterlik, #1
Wenzel Schraml, #45
Karl Schraml, #31
Franz Schraml, #28
Karl Peterlik

Franz Paulus was the last inhabitant of the village of Landstrassen after the war and the start of Czech administration. He left September 22, 1946. So ended the village of Landstrassen.

Thanks to Bob Ziemba for sharing his copy of the story.


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